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I suppose if you had to think about the

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sightings of Weston West Wales if the

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nineteen nineteen seventy-seven you'd

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think about three particular events the

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landing of the UFO at the broad haven

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primary school a series of sightings at

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a place called ripest and farm a few

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miles away up on the cliffs and a series

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of sightings which afflicted a hotel iya

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living at the havenport hotel in between

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port heiden and sing and little hayden

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let me just touch upon her for a moment

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her name was rose the Granville Spanish

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in origin and her daughter's name is

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Francine and I believe Francine still

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this at the haven for all the roses now

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dead one night Rosa woke up to a rocking

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sound outside her window there was a

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that the window was rattling there was

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there was a light shining into her boat

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into her room and she was deathly

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terrified so terrified that she got out

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of bed and she went to the window and

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she looked out and what does she see

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there a landed object on the ground with

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I can't tell you whether she saw one or

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two figures i believe it was more than

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one but they were silver suited they

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were they were they were very tall and

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they seemed to be inspecting the ground

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now Rosa Granville reported this

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sighting to the newspapers and became

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the subject of some well a bit of a joke

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suppose amongst some of her peeps some

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of the people living in living in little

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haven unfairly unfairly a my dad because

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she was soon to be vindicated because

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there was a whole other flurry of

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sightings seem to follow but what was

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really interesting about his sighting

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was that after the event and i know that

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i've got i've heard this first hand from

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the witnesses when i visited the area

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about 10 or 11 years ago they were

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visited by some men and the way the

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story was put to me i'll just tell to

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you now Francina sitting in the bar the

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bar the havenport hotel looks out over

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us a wide gravel drive and she was in

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the bar and they heard the doorbell go

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and she said to me that was the first

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thing that was strange because whenever

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a car comes up on the driveway we hear

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it come up the driveway but suddenly

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there was someone let the door so she

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said we went to the door and there were

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two men standing there she said to me

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that they had and skin that was like a

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woman's skin it's the word she used and

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she said they were very similar-looking

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they were dressed in they were dressed

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very smartly and their car heart behind

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them as she said look like

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a silver futuristic car she said I've

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never seen a car like it but what was

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even stranger was but these men then

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said to her we've come to talk to you

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about your UFO sighting but we can't

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stop today will come another day that

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was it and then they left now that that

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is deeply strange behavior and I'm sure

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we've all met somebody who is deeply

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strange so we've all met people who are

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deeply strange right these people do

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exist experience s but I'll tell you

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something that is even stranger these

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reports of strange men to come and ask

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peculiar these quick place questions I

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found all over the world all over the

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world and it you only have to look at

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the similarities between these reports

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to draw the conclusion that there's

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something deeply strange going on and I

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don't mean that to imply that these men

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were some sort of alien or than you know

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government agency I just want to draw

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your attention to the fact that these

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things do happen because what happened

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at the havenport hotel then happened to

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get a triple stand far I ripest and farm

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as many of you will know it's a very

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very remote place have you been to

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Briston fun I mean it's right is that

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right so it's right out on the cliffs

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really quite spooky place I would

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imagine if you were to live there in the

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winter and at the time of course Billy

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Coombs was the head hurts Minh and

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Pauline Coombs was his wife and they had

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a couple of pits well twins brother and

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sister as well and of course the affair

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at Laura piston farm began on a dark

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night dark night Pauline's driving down

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the road Daniel the lane suddenly a

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globe of light falls from the sky and

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begins following her car it becomes even

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more terrifying

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light spins around and flies directly at

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the car towards the wind screen it looks

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like they're going to hit and then it

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goes straight up by this point she's

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absolutely terrified as you would be all

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the kids terrified she comes to a halt

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outside the house they run inside and

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grab a husband he comes to the door just

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in time to see this globe of light above

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the car and it flies away now that

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sighting as well as been quite

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interesting could be out of a textbook

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if you've read any UFO books they're all

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it just follows a certain pattern but

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what's really interesting is that that

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report I referred to earlier on project

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condign the one done by the Defence

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Intelligence staff that focuses on the

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military applications of this sort of

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phosphor annamma know so they admit that

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these things are real in this report and

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that what she saw and what she was

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laughed at for seeing doesn't

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necessarily it suddenly we have

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independent confirmation from our

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government at this sort of phenomena

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exists and it could actually have some

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sort of military application whatever

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application is I have no idea but it's

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interesting the second really

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interesting thing to happen at

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riverstone farm of course is that the

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whole family will witness or Billy and

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his and his wife Pauline at least were

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witness to one of these very stall

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figures which appeared that one of their

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window it was one evening and of course

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that was an incident that scared and

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mauled to death but I interviewed

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Pauline Coombs because I was interested

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to see how much of what she said then

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she was still prepared to say and I have

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to say that not only was most of what

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she told me perfectly consistent but I

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gleaned further bits of information from

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her so for example she told me that the

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roast there was a bush next to the

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window and she said that she said that

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it was it was it was black and all

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damaged after this figure this glowing

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silver suited figure with this

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blacked-out face had appeared on the

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window she said it was damaged

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and she also said that the paint around

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the window refused to stick properly for

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a while and that that was that was

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interesting but of course we can't

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verify that because it happened so long

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ago but what was interesting was that

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the the son of the family did report

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also an encounter with with with a car a

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futuristic-looking car which came to the

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property after their sighting and that

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they were men there dressed smartly I

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don't want to use the word men in black

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because it carries so many unfortunate

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connotations now you know you can't use

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that phrase like thinking about Will

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Smith but but the point is the point is

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these things were reported and I'd read

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about them like I'm sure you've all read

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about men in black and UFO sightings but

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when you hear it from the horse's mouth

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it has a very different has a very

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different effect I think so I was

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interested in whether or not any of

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these sightings which were happening

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around West Wales had had attracted any

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sort of interest from the government if

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you go back and look at what the mo dee

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said at the time they'll tell you Bob

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it's pretty clear actually they were

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where they were aware of the reports

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that were going on but they didn't

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really claim to have any information on

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it they claimed they had you know

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they've been a very woolly about the

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whole thing and in fact rows of

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Granville's at local MP wrote trying to

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get answers and you got a reply

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basically saying that there was nothing

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in all this I think his name is James

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well the love of a person who replied

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anyway you can let go and look at all go

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and look it up but the point is and it's

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it's quite a significant point is it was

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in writing at the time that they had

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nothing on any of these events well

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I'll come now to the broad Haven UFO

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incident at the school in February I

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have with me tonight a statement from

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one of the one of the witnesses one of

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the original witnesses who's happy for

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me to read this out and I i will read it

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out just before I do I went to the

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school about 10 11 years ago and looked

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through they have a wonderful scrapbook

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they're called haven primary school and

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the story i was able to piece together

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is the one I'm sure you've all heard

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that on a drizzly afternoon I think it

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was a Friday afternoon the children came

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running in and alerted their headmaster

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rough Llewellyn to the fact that they

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had seen at the end of their playing

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field the hedge that border the stream

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and looked at to a wider hill behind

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that they'd seen what they described as

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a landed landed flying saucer UFO it was

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in fact they didn't actually have a full

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view of it it was half obscured behind

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the trees and actually what was really

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interesting about looking at their

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drawings is that this object there's a

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very striking similarity to the one that

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was seen in bishopston which first

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ignited my interest very very striking

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similarity of course the headmaster was

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deeply deeply skeptical but the boy's

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parents were unprepared to take to

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forget the whole thing and Randall Jones

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pew who was a local researcher at the

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time was very very quickly made aware

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and went down to the place where this

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object seemed to have appeared and he

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basically discovered a very very muddy

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terrain where it would be very very

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difficult to place any sort of machinery

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now that may or may not be true

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I've no doubt and he went there and I no

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doubt it was muddy it was raining it was

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the visibility was not good that day and

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I've spent a lot of time in brought

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haven when I was researching the

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Watchers I can tell you that there are

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many people living there particularly

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near the sewage works and the hill

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opposite who will say I'm afraid what

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they saw was a sewage tanker and they've

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been watching too much Star Trek because

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one of the boys actually drew a figure

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that has pointy ears well i have to say

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i don't believe that what they saw was a

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sewerage canker I understand why people

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say it but if you if you look at the

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spot and if you go there and sigh have

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feeds I mean it's it's a it's a very

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minute the hill is pretty steep but also

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the sewerage works aren't really

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completely visible it seems like very

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odd thing to see but what convinces me

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more than that is that the boys all

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stand by their story today well at least

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those of them that I've been able to

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speak to do and as far back as 1996 I

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think they will stop by their story as

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well well the interesting thing is a

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nice of sorts of events obviously we

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can't go back we can't check but what we

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can do what we can do is look at the

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evidence from the time which is

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obviously the most reliable and the

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evidence from the time was gathered by

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roughly wallet and I know people who his

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know what no longer with us I'm afraid

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but I do know people who knew him who

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has said to me he regretted until the

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day he died not going out to look when

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and the reason he regretted it is

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because he asked them all to draw what

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they saw and of course all those

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drawings talent they all drew pretty

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much the same thing there were a few

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discrepancies but it's a dome-shaped

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object the cigar-shaped object with a

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dome on top and maybe a light maybe not

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what's also interesting is that many

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people living around the school there's

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a small road that overlooks it I did

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actually speak to a couple of people who

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implied to me thats adults had seen the

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object as well actually at the time

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there were some canteen workers who were

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prepared to say they had seen an object

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up there that looked very similar to

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what the boys have reported on a

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different day and they also thought this

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thing was pretty unusual now if this

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incident had occurred in complete

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isolation let's suppose that it had you

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might be forgiven I suppose you might be

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forgiven for thinking what happened was

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somebody somewhere was dumping some

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sewage they weren't meant to be doing it

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this may be illegal they were and they

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were quite happy for somebody to go away

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and invent a UFO story as there's lots

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of big hits in there but it didn't

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happen in isolation because people all

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over pembrokeshire that summer reported

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seeing silver objects on the ground and

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what's also interesting or perhaps

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telling about this is that these objects

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we had never seen moving they were seen

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disappearing in situ reappearing

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somewhere else in another part of the

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field which doesn't really sound like a

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one of the witnesses was a woman who was

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a university educated and live very near

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to ripest and far her name is Josephine

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hewison well Josephine woke up one

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morning to look out of her window to see

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an object that she described was a like

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an upturn jelly mold and again with a

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brushed aluminium finish and she said

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this object was so big that it it

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completely blocked out a local green

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hats a greenhouse standing on her

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standing on her property well Josephine

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stood by i interviewed Josephine myself

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when I was researching this book and she

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doesn't live in Wales anymore ah stood

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by it stood by the story but when I was

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most recently doing research for this

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book I went back to the havens and I met

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a chap who knew her and he said to me

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I'm extremely skeptical about all of

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this he said but bloody hell she was

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adamant she was no changing her mind and

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she'd seen this and I can conceive of no

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reasonable explanation as to why she'd

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make it up why would she make it up her

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her her neighbors Pauline and Billy had

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been ridiculed because they prepared in

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the press quite a few times so one of

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the sites one of the reasons they were

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ridiculed it's because one of the things

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they saw was really quite astounding and

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this is that this is the story which

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strains the credulity I think the whole

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wells triangle and ignorant

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I'm sure many of you know what I'm about

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to say that's of course the sighting by

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pauline Coombs have an object flying

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into stacked rocks which was rocky out

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problem off of the shore st. bride's bay

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what she thought she saw was an object

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flying into it a door opening and

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closing and a door within the rocks now

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if you've ever seen a bird on a bright

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sunny day flying around the rocks it can

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look a bit like a silver disk from a

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distance but what's interesting is that

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somebody else also saw this which was

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maybe they saw it somebody else also saw

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this and if somebody else was the hotel

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you at the havenport hotel now that for

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me also sounds like a bit of a

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coincidence but we have to take the

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testimony at face value I'll tell you

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that something when i was in in the

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havens walking around the area around

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around ripest and farm and stacked rocks

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i met a farmer who who said to me I got

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talking to about this and he told me two

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interesting things the first was if you

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don't think there's anything out in

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stack rocks go and talk to the divers at

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the diving club it was the first

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interesting thing the second thing was I

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used to hear that he used to have some

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people who would stay at his farm

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because he used to run a

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bed-and-breakfast and he said they would

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go out walking around stacked rocks

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frequently until one day they came home

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and they said we're never coming back

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here again and he said they never spoke

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about it well I went to the divers club

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and I asked because of my curiosity was

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feet it was a good story as I said

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stories what I'm all about really and I

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went I went and spoke to somebody at the

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divers club and they said that there

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were members of their club who had seen

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the equipment under the water around

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stacked rocks so they said they'd seen a

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ladder embedded in the rocks now that

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seems to me like something you could go

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and check and I

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diver I'm just telling you what they

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told me but it did make me think because

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at the hotel I was I learned a story

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which I don't think it's been put down

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in print before but I used a version of

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it fictionalized in my novel and the

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story basically came from the hotel

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where the UFO was seen and the

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storyboard down to this there were some

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people staying there who worked up at

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RAF broadie while they didn't work at

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RAF broadie they worked at this top

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secret naval installation next door it

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was officially an oceanographic research

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station very very top secret at the

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tight of the Cold War and what they were

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doing or what they said they were doing